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The fifth book in Robert Jordan's internationally bestselling epic fantasy series, THE WHEEL OF TIME, now reissued with a stunning new cover design. The bonds and wards that hold the Great Lord of the Dark are slowly failing, but still his fragile prison holds. The Forsaken, immortal servants of the shadow, weave their snares and tighten their grip upon the realms of men, The fifth book in Robert Jordan's internationally bestselling epic fantasy series, THE WHEEL OF TIME, now reissued with a stunning new cover design. The bonds and wards that hold the Great Lord of the Dark are slowly failing, but still his fragile prison holds. The Forsaken, immortal servants of the shadow, weave their snares and tighten their grip upon the realms of men, sure in the knowledge that their master will soon break free... Rand al' Thor, the Dragon Reborn, knows that he must strike at the Enemy, but his forces are divided by treachery and by ambition. Even the Aes Sedai, ancient guardians of the Light, are riven by civil war. Betrayed by his allies, pursued by his enemies and beset by the madness that comes to the male wielders of the One Power, Rand rides out to meet the foe.


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The fifth book in Robert Jordan's internationally bestselling epic fantasy series, THE WHEEL OF TIME, now reissued with a stunning new cover design. The bonds and wards that hold the Great Lord of the Dark are slowly failing, but still his fragile prison holds. The Forsaken, immortal servants of the shadow, weave their snares and tighten their grip upon the realms of men, The fifth book in Robert Jordan's internationally bestselling epic fantasy series, THE WHEEL OF TIME, now reissued with a stunning new cover design. The bonds and wards that hold the Great Lord of the Dark are slowly failing, but still his fragile prison holds. The Forsaken, immortal servants of the shadow, weave their snares and tighten their grip upon the realms of men, sure in the knowledge that their master will soon break free... Rand al' Thor, the Dragon Reborn, knows that he must strike at the Enemy, but his forces are divided by treachery and by ambition. Even the Aes Sedai, ancient guardians of the Light, are riven by civil war. Betrayed by his allies, pursued by his enemies and beset by the madness that comes to the male wielders of the One Power, Rand rides out to meet the foe.

30 review for The Fires of Heaven

  1. 4 out of 5

    Kat Hooper

    ORIGINALLY POSTED AT Fantasy Literature. For being such a long book (nearly 1000 pages in my trade paperback copy), amazingly little happens in The Fires of Heaven, and this is why so many readers have abandoned this otherwise interesting story. Approximately the first third of the novel contains so much recap and repetition that, if I'd had "my hair in a proper braid," I would have been yanking it as often as Nynaeve does. The formula for the first 100 pages or so goes something like this: One or ORIGINALLY POSTED AT Fantasy Literature. For being such a long book (nearly 1000 pages in my trade paperback copy), amazingly little happens in The Fires of Heaven, and this is why so many readers have abandoned this otherwise interesting story. Approximately the first third of the novel contains so much recap and repetition that, if I'd had "my hair in a proper braid," I would have been yanking it as often as Nynaeve does. The formula for the first 100 pages or so goes something like this: One or two lines of dialogue, two paragraphs of backstory, another line of dialogue, another couple of paragraphs of backstory... It felt like the proverbial "one step forward, two steps back!" I managed to stick with it, though, only because I was listening to it on audiobook (and therefore only half listening while I accomplished something else at the same time) and because I wanted to write a review. Besides, I found it immensely entertaining when I could complete Robert Jordan's sentences for him... <>... In The Fires of Heaven, we never see Perrin or Faile, which is fine with me. There is an interesting plot-line involving Siuan Sanche, Logain, and Gareth Bryne. Rand's adoption of Asmodean is entertaining, too -- I like that we're not really sure which side Asmodean and Lanfear are on. The plot does finally move forward a bit, but it takes way too long to do so. The book could have easily been cut to half its size and been better for it. If I had been the editor, I would have taken a blue pencil to all instances of: * females obsessing about the modesty of their clothing * males obsessing about the modesty of female clothing * needless skirt smoothing and straightening * silk clinging to hips and breasts * shivering or sweating that has nothing to do with the weather * disgusted talk about not understanding the opposite sex * braid pulling, tugging, and yanking * sniffing * thoughts or actual instances of bottoms being switched or spanked * Nynaeve's cat fights At this point, I'm quickly loosing patience as The Wheel of Time quickly looses steam. That's a shame, because the story itself is very good -- but it's just too hard to extract it from the dross. Read more Robert Jordan book reviews at Fantasy literature.

  2. 5 out of 5

    Sean Barrs

    The Fires of Heaven bored me to tears. Nothing happened. My favourite character wasn’t even present. I feel like the story hasn’t progressed since The Shadow Rising. It's 900+ pages of nothingness! The problem with epic fantasy is that is can easily become too long. It’s usually filled with big descriptive passages, history and lore with a huge cast of characters in order to fully illustrate the world. And I usually love it, as I have done with books in this series, but the story needs to move The Fires of Heaven bored me to tears. Nothing happened. My favourite character wasn’t even present. I feel like the story hasn’t progressed since The Shadow Rising. It's 900+ pages of nothingness! The problem with epic fantasy is that is can easily become too long. It’s usually filled with big descriptive passages, history and lore with a huge cast of characters in order to fully illustrate the world. And I usually love it, as I have done with books in this series, but the story needs to move forward for these elements not to feel superfluous. Unfortunately, this remains very much stationary and stuck deep in the mud (the mud of one of Rand’s endless campsites.) This is the worse book in the series so far for me. The first third is loaded with recap material and repetitive storytelling. Some parts felt eerily similar to what I’ve read before. If I had the time, and the patience, I could find paragraphs and passages from the first four books that were almost identical to those printed here. I found myself skimming sections that added nothing to the story and just rambled on about things that have already been established and are growing tiresome. This book needed some energy! It needed a direction rather than the movement of an army and camp across the map. The good bits (such as they are) The only real interesting parts were some of the character interactions. I liked the tension created by having a Forsaken very close to Rand. Asmodean would have been killed by Rand’s allies if they knew of his identity. Moraine is rigid and unflinching and is unable to understand that there is a space in between darkness and light, the moral grey area. Asmodean is a survivalist, nothing more, and Rand is his best opportunity at escaping annihilation. Though, that being said, Jordan could have done a lot more with this story thread. Moraine and Rand continued to clash, and eventually she begged him to let her stay with him. She’s sacrificed her own dignity just so she can be there to help him. Although toward the end of this book something has clearly changed to alter their relationship forever, I still found myself growing bored of their repetitive interactions and conversations. It follows a very similar pattern: Moraine advises Rand. Rand ignores her. Rand gets hurt. Moraine saves him. (repeat.) I just want it to hurry up and be over with. At this point, I’m seriously considering skipping the next eight books and just reading the last one to see how it all ends. I’d read plot summaries to fill me in on the ones I’d miss. I will give Lord of Chaos a go first but if doesn’t move quickly I will not waste my time reading the entire thing. That won’t be until next summer though, this one took me almost four months to get through and it was a slog. (I'm in hope that it gets better and moves forward.) The Wheel of Time 1. Eye of the World- An unoriginal five stars 2. The Great Hunt- A reluctant three stars 3. The Dragon Reborn- A well-developed four stars 4. The Shadow Rising- A strong four stars 5. The Fires of Heaven- A slow two stars

  3. 5 out of 5

    Em Lost In Books

    Fifth book in the series and I must say Jordan is still keeping things interesting. True, at some it felt like story is stagnant but soon he threw in some action and I was hooked again. This book marks the absence of Perrin. I was expecting him to do great things in this book especially after that heroic performance in book 4 but sadly his name was mentioned here and there only, and not a single glimpse. I was very sad throughout the book because of it. Elayne, Nynaeve, Aviendha and Rand, more tha Fifth book in the series and I must say Jordan is still keeping things interesting. True, at some it felt like story is stagnant but soon he threw in some action and I was hooked again. This book marks the absence of Perrin. I was expecting him to do great things in this book especially after that heroic performance in book 4 but sadly his name was mentioned here and there only, and not a single glimpse. I was very sad throughout the book because of it. Elayne, Nynaeve, Aviendha and Rand, more than made up for Perrin’s absence here though I must say I only liked Rand here. As for the girls, they kept bickering throughout the book. Sometimes they fought among themselves and sometimes it was others who bore the tantrum thrown by these silly oafs. Surprise of the book for me was Mat. He really came out of Rand’s shadow in this book. Though he was not prominently featured but whenever he was present in a scene, he was owned it. And he totally stole the show in final chapters. He is slowly paving his way into my list of favorites. I simply loved how Rand has behaving from the last book. No one can order him around and he will make people do his bidding even if they are dead set against it. He knows what he has to do and he won’t let anyone do him otherwise. With each installment he has become calmer (perhaps except the parts where Aviendha and Elayne drives him mad) and strong. Last but certainly not the least, Nynaeve. She has been my favorite since book 1. And I will admit graciously that she drives me mad sometimes but she is one of the strongest characters in the series so far. What she did in Shadow Rising and here, I don’t think can be outdone. Overall it was a satisfactory addition to the series. Slow most of the time but it sure has its moments.

  4. 4 out of 5

    Foomy

    What I like to call Volume 1 in the "Women Hating Men" trilogy. At almost no point in these three books did women interacting with men consist of anything beyond: insulting men, assaulting men, sniffing at men, or thinking about how stupid men are compared to all the omniscient women. I almost didn't finish this book because of all the negative energy towards men. Lessons I learned from this trilogy. 1) It is always a man's fault. Always. 2) Women are always smarter than men. 3) It is okay to break What I like to call Volume 1 in the "Women Hating Men" trilogy. At almost no point in these three books did women interacting with men consist of anything beyond: insulting men, assaulting men, sniffing at men, or thinking about how stupid men are compared to all the omniscient women. I almost didn't finish this book because of all the negative energy towards men. Lessons I learned from this trilogy. 1) It is always a man's fault. Always. 2) Women are always smarter than men. 3) It is okay to break your promises as long as they were to a man. 4) Hitting a man is a perfectly acceptable response to anything he says. 5) If a man proves you wrong, it is okay to lie about it and also hit him. 6) A man raping a woman is a horrible crime. 7) A woman raping a man is funny. 8) A man of his word is easy to manipulate. The best part of this whole trilogy was the end of book 6 (Lord of Chaos) because we finally saw some turnabout in the men vs. women thing. Seriously, what kind of women did Robert Jordan have in his life? He was utterly incapable of creating a strong female character without also making her a hateful, spiteful harpy. They are either spineless doormats or unbearable battleaxes. The only reason this one has a second star in its rating is because he actually moves the plot along in interesting ways.

  5. 5 out of 5

    Markus

    “Storms rumble beyond the horizon, and the fires of heaven purge the earth. There is no salvation without destruction, no hope this side of death.” The White Tower is shattered by a brutal struggle for power. The remaining Forsaken enter the fray, as kings and queens dance to their tunes in secret. And the greatest army the Westlands have seen in thousands of years emerge from the Waste, as the clans of the Aiel cross the Spine of the World at the command of He Who Comes With The Dawn. The Fires o “Storms rumble beyond the horizon, and the fires of heaven purge the earth. There is no salvation without destruction, no hope this side of death.” The White Tower is shattered by a brutal struggle for power. The remaining Forsaken enter the fray, as kings and queens dance to their tunes in secret. And the greatest army the Westlands have seen in thousands of years emerge from the Waste, as the clans of the Aiel cross the Spine of the World at the command of He Who Comes With The Dawn. The Fires of Heaven is unfortunately not as interesting as previous instalments in the Wheel of Time series. To briefly summarise, there were three hundred pages of following a travelling circus, chapter upon chapter of nothing happening in the Aiel Waste, very little action at all, and quite a lot of talking. And precious little interesting talking, mind you. Still, reading this book was like taking a break after a long and tedious workout session. Its most important strength was that the main characters, previously dubbed the worst characters in fantasy by this particular reviewer, seems to have improved immensely. Rand al'Thor, while further exploring the depths of madness, behaves rather civilly for once; both Egwene and Mat turn into characters I can respect, perhaps even like; Aviendha and Nynaeve have become almost tolerable; and Perrin and Faile don't even appear. So in one way at least, this was a series highlight so far. Min's early POV chapters were great, and so were Rand's late ones. Watching Siuan Sanche race across the countryside with a gentled false Dragon in tow and encountering a bunch of interesting characters was perfectly enjoyable. As was reading about the Aiel and their second crossing of the Spine of the World. So there were certainly great parts included in this book as well. The ending was definitely not as good as the one in The Shadow Rising, but neither would anyone expect it to be. The book as a whole was unremarkable and not particularly impressive, but the (almost) complete lack of negative qualities made me able to appreciate the insane worldbuilding skills of Robert Jordan even more. And for the first time in a while, I'm very much looking forward to reading the next book in this series. Wheel of Time reviews: #1 The Eye of the World #2 The Great Hunt #3 The Dragon Reborn #4 The Shadow Rising #5 The Fires of Heaven #6 Lord of Chaos #7 A Crown of Swords #8 The Path of Daggers #9 Winter's Heart #10 Crossroads of Twilight #11 Knife of Dreams #12 The Gathering Storm #13 Towers of Midnight #14 A Memory of Light

  6. 5 out of 5

    Robin (Bridge Four)

    Another month and another Wheel of Time book down. This is epic high fantasy at its best. Rich engaging world with a lot of different PoVs and exciting happenings everywhere. A few points of interest: Rand - gets his groove on with a special lady and Lanfear looses her mind over it. But he also becomes more of a strong leader everyday. Nynaeve - Unfortunately almost all the female characters in this get a personality change and spend most their time bickering and postering with each other enough to Another month and another Wheel of Time book down. This is epic high fantasy at its best. Rich engaging world with a lot of different PoVs and exciting happenings everywhere. A few points of interest: Rand - gets his groove on with a special lady and Lanfear looses her mind over it. But he also becomes more of a strong leader everyday. Nynaeve - Unfortunately almost all the female characters in this get a personality change and spend most their time bickering and postering with each other enough to drive me crazy. But she does get to have a battle with Mogadine and that is pretty awesome. Birgetta - The one female character that I loved through this entire book is more in the fight than I ever thought she’d be. Mat - FINALLY DOES SOMETHING….I feel like I’ve been waiting forever for him to become more than a man that only gambles and chases skirts around. He might try to be hiding from his destiny but it looks like it is going to find him no matter what. Eylane - Tap danced on my very last nerve with her actions towards Thom and some of the other petty crap she pulled. But she has learned to do something that has been lost for millennia so good for her. The White Tower Divided - WOW this seems pretty troublesome overall. All I know is that Moiraine is pretty much the only Aes Sedae I like and the light burn all the others. It is amazing how dense they all are in themselves and their greatness. Hubris will kill them all eventually I think. Min - Was one of the few female characters that didn’t turn into a total ninny this book. I enjoyed her chapters traveling with a deposed Suane the most and I hope she makes it to Rand to have her shot soon. There are some great surprises in this book but I liked the last one just a little more. I think that has a lot to do with all the women in the book becoming silly, whiny and a little stupid for the most part. But the Wheel weaves as the Wheel Wills and I am so caught up in knowing how this cycle will play out.

  7. 4 out of 5

    Choko

    *** 4.5 *** A sprint to catch up with the buddy read at BB&B WoT crowd! This is an amazing Epic Fantasy full of excitement, drama, wonderful as well as ridiculous situations, very flawed main characters, and a feeling of enchantment which is almost unattainable for most authors... Robert Jordan has made us already fall in love with all our thick headed leading boys, creatures, and girls, but in this book he tests our patience with them as readers, because he shows how VERY FLAWED they can get. At *** 4.5 *** A sprint to catch up with the buddy read at BB&B WoT crowd! This is an amazing Epic Fantasy full of excitement, drama, wonderful as well as ridiculous situations, very flawed main characters, and a feeling of enchantment which is almost unattainable for most authors... Robert Jordan has made us already fall in love with all our thick headed leading boys, creatures, and girls, but in this book he tests our patience with them as readers, because he shows how VERY FLAWED they can get. At times I thought all of them needed to get taken down a peg or hundred, or at least they needed a good switching.... Some of them got exactly that, some steel need some direction with a firm hand... But despite the infuriating cat fighting and frustrating stubbornness they all exhibited at times, this is still an amazing, BRILLIANT, and addictive read which should be read by EVERY Fantasy fan!!!! I wish you all Happy Reading and may you find the books which make you feel the way this series makes me feel!!!!

  8. 5 out of 5

    Hasham Rasool

    "The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth returns again. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the Shadow." This book was published in 1993. I was born in the same year as 'The Fires of Heaven' released. It took me 24 years later to read 'The Fires of Heaven'. I am so please to come back reading 'The Wheel of Time'. I love this book a lot same as I love "The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth returns again. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the Shadow." This book was published in 1993. I was born in the same year as 'The Fires of Heaven' released. It took me 24 years later to read 'The Fires of Heaven'. I am so please to come back reading 'The Wheel of Time'. I love this book a lot same as I love the first four books of The Wheel of Time. Alhamdulillah. It is a very engaged world to live in and there is a lot of different viewpoints in the book and there is a full of excitement in the book too. I love the world-building a lot. I would recommend these people who are fans of fantasy to read 'The Wheel of Time' series. I only read five books of 'The Wheel of Time' this year. I hope I will complete 'The Wheel of Time' in 2018. Let just wait and see if I will complete it in 2018. I can't believe what has happened in the end. It is a fantastic twist!

  9. 4 out of 5

    David - proud Gleeman in Branwen's adventuring party

    Full review to come, but for now, here are some random observations: The book started out strong, with those tricky Forsaken up to their shenanigans, which is always fun to watch. But as Rand and company traveled without getting anywhere, things got slower... ...and slower... ...and sllllllllloooooooowwwwwwwer! But then Nynaeve and Elayne met a circus menagerie, which was really cool! And the Forsaken started causing trouble again, so my interest was once again piqued. But then a battle that had been Full review to come, but for now, here are some random observations: The book started out strong, with those tricky Forsaken up to their shenanigans, which is always fun to watch. But as Rand and company traveled without getting anywhere, things got slower... ...and slower... ...and sllllllllloooooooowwwwwwwer! But then Nynaeve and Elayne met a circus menagerie, which was really cool! And the Forsaken started causing trouble again, so my interest was once again piqued. But then a battle that had been built up for hundreds of pages wound up mostly happening off camera, so then I was annoyed again! But even if I found some parts dull, the last few chapters more than made up for it, with the most exciting climax since The Great Hunt! So, overall, this was my least favorite of the Wheel of Time books so far, but ultimately still a good read (especially the last quarter of the book). If I were to stack Wheel of Time books in order of favorite to least favorite, this is how it would look so far: I was a little disappointed in myself that it's taken me so long to read through this series so far, but then I noticed something when I turned the books around: Light! That's a lot of pages! I expect the table will collapse by the time I get to Book 10! :o

  10. 5 out of 5

    Valliya Rennell

    4 stars **Although this is a spoiler-free review (spoilers are hidden), there may be spoilers for previous books (scroll down)** Guys!! Based on pure enjoyment, this is my favorite Wheel of Time book so far. Where the previous book focused more on Rand and Perrin, this one treats all the side quests (Min, Rand, Mat, Egwene, and Elayne/Nynaeve) fairly equally... but excludes Perrin. As Couladin declared himself the 'real' Car’a’carn and promises vengeance on the treekiller Cairhienin, he sets out o 4 stars **Although this is a spoiler-free review (spoilers are hidden), there may be spoilers for previous books (scroll down)** Guys!! Based on pure enjoyment, this is my favorite Wheel of Time book so far. Where the previous book focused more on Rand and Perrin, this one treats all the side quests (Min, Rand, Mat, Egwene, and Elayne/Nynaeve) fairly equally... but excludes Perrin. As Couladin declared himself the 'real' Car’a’carn and promises vengeance on the treekiller Cairhienin, he sets out on a killer rampage to Jangai Pass. Rand soon follows suit. With Foresaken taunting and chasing after him, he will soon be facing more than one enemy... but will his mind hold up until then? “With his coming are the dread fires born again. The hills burn, and the land turns sere. The tides of men run out, and the hours dwindle. The wall is pierced, and the veil of parting raised. Storms rumble beyond the horizon, and the fires of heaven purge the earth. There is no salvation without destruction, no hope this side of death.” I absolutely loved the plot of this book. It is everything you want. The set up starts up right in the beginning. From the quote above (with which the novel starts), to the gripping prologue, to the tension-filled first chapter. Then the climax and the third act were all phenomenal. You get this feeling of strife through Rand's perspective. At this point I feel like he might become my favorite character overall with time. From the Nynaeve/Elayne side, their plot gives them an opportunity to set up other conflicts and explore parts of the world that we have only heard about previously. They also give the story a tranquil tone with comic relief that doesn't feel forced. Where in some other previous entries to this series I thought the humor and plot was a little bit forced, here I thoroughly enjoyed it. The one aspect of the story that really put a bad taste in my mouth were the women. I cannot stand some of them now. I have been told that it gets better but WOW do I want to (as Nynaeve would say) "box their ears". Min, Moiraine, Siuan, and sometimes Elayne and Nynaeve are the only women that I actually like. The two main offenders in this book are Egwene and Aviendha. First off, Egwene is a brat. She has this moment in the book where she turns into a pretentious jerk to everyone other than the Wise Ones, Aviendha and Moiraine. There are no words that express how disgusted I was in her while reading her segments. On the other hand, Aviendha is a bad friend: for what reasons I cannot say, but let's just say, if I was Elayne I'd be pissed. The Fires of Heaven, is the most fun book in the series so far. Despite its usual Jordan pacing issues (though those too haven't been very prevalent), I was more than satisfied in the set up and pay off of the plot and the progression of some characters. Unfortunately the females are getting on my nerves and taint my impression of this novel. Quick note: I am reading New Spring after this book. Spoiler thoughts: (view spoiler)[ Ok I need to talk about something great and something not so great: character development for Nynaeve and Mat, and how much I hate Egwene and Aviendha at the moment. Firstly Robert Jordan is fantastic at developing characters as evidenced by what he does with Mat and Nynaeve in this book. Mat's moments, though lamentably infrequent, are fantastic. They include the part where he decides to help the Tairens against Couladin's Aiel, and the part where he accidentally kills Melindre. Both moments are headstones that show who Mat is: “He had killed men, and Trollocs, but never a woman. Never a woman until now. Women were glad when he came into their lives. It was not boasting. Women smiled for him; even when he left them, they smiled as if they would welcome him back. That was all he ever really wanted from women; a smile, a dance, a kiss, and to be remembered fondly.” The fact that Mat is thinking all of this as he holds a dying Melindre is heart-breaking. He hates himself, he feels disappointed in himself. A part of him took over, the warrior/violent part of him. And in letting that little part take over, he did something against his morals. No matter that his newfound battle prowess brings help and joy to his armies, it killed a part of him too. I cannot wait to see where this goes. Then there is Nynaeve. Although that entire segment when she and Elayne leave the caravans and Valan Luca declares his love for her was frustrating (what with her being oblivious to him and harshly rejecting him), I loved her contrast to Moghedien. Nynaeve's battle with fear and cowardice is fantastic to read about; how she fights to overcome fear and access the power through anger. The ending when she binds Moghedien in an a'dam was so powerful and also terrifying. As she starts torturing the Forsaken she mutters that she isn't the other woman and stops. I wonder if this is hinting at a future darker path for Nynaeve. Out of the entire cast, in the beginning, I wouldn't have guessed that she'd be one to turn morally-gray, but I'm here for it if it happens. Egwene and Aviendha. EGWENE IS SUCH A BRAT!!!! “For that matter, she ought not to shout at Nynaeve, either; she was a woman, not a girl throwing tantrums. She found herself giggling. She especially ought not to raise her voice with Nynaeve when speaking calmly produced such results.” There's this one section where Egwene just spends her time thinking on how to manipulate Nynaeve. I hate that. I was so so disgusted by this. Probably Egwene feels powerful that she can now have power over a woman who taught her, but the way she disrespects Nynaeve puts a bad, bad taste in my mouth. Aviendha is a different story. She ever hear of girl code? First, she and Rand have sex in the tent. Then, she just walks around him naked. Sure Aiel customs and Wise Ones intervening, whatever. She disrespects Elayne by doing this. Her near-sister. I am all for a poly relationship. However, I am only ok with it so far for it being Elayne-Min-Rand because Aviendha pisses me off. Min is so pure and sweet, Elayne is powerful and I love how flustered she gets around Rand. BUT AVIENDHA IS JUST A HOE. For those who read The Witcher series, she reminds me of Triss... but with anger issues. Basically, I know that Jordan can handle characters wonderfully. WHY DOES HE DO THIS WITH EGWENE AND AVIENDHA OH MY GOD! My greatest hope for book 6 will be to fix this. (hide spoiler)] ----------------------------------- Books in series : #0 New Spring: ★★.75 #1 The Eye of the World: ★★★.5 #2 The Great Hunt: ★★★.75 #3 The Dragon Reborn: ★★★ #4 The Shadow Rising: ★★★★.25 #5 The Fires of Heaven: ★★★★

  11. 4 out of 5

    Richard Bray

    To this point, I’ve enjoyed my re-read of THE WHEEL OF TIME, but I struggled at times to wade through this one. The length — nearing 1,000 pages in the mass-market paperback edition — wasn’t so much the problem as the character Nynaeve. To this point in the series I’ve been mostly positive about Jordan’s use of women. There’s no disguising the fact that WHEEL OF TIME is heavily inspired by LORD OF THE RINGS, and seeing Jordan correct one of Tolkien’s weaknesses — the role of women in his stories To this point, I’ve enjoyed my re-read of THE WHEEL OF TIME, but I struggled at times to wade through this one. The length — nearing 1,000 pages in the mass-market paperback edition — wasn’t so much the problem as the character Nynaeve. To this point in the series I’ve been mostly positive about Jordan’s use of women. There’s no disguising the fact that WHEEL OF TIME is heavily inspired by LORD OF THE RINGS, and seeing Jordan correct one of Tolkien’s weaknesses — the role of women in his stories — seemed like a solid step. And while some of the male protagonists seemed passive, merely reacting to the world around them rather than making proactive choices, Nynaeve, Egwene and Elayne at times drove the plot, making decisions and bringing the fight to the bad guys. But in this book, Jordan relies more heavily on Nynaeve’s point of view, and that sucks much of the fun from the story. To this point, Nynaeve has mostly been a side character. Surly and grouchy, almost always criticizing the other characters, she has always been portrayed as a good person who’s a bit overbearing and rough around the edges. But spending as much time inside Nynaeve’s head as we do in this book, I came away with almost the opposite impression. She hates almost all of her “friends.” Elayne is a slut because of the clothes she wears, even though Nynaeve is often wearing something similar. Anyone who disagrees with her is a fool. All men are morons, except for Lan. Thom is an old fool. Juilin Sandar wears a silly conical hat (Nynaeve seems obsessed with this damn hat. In every Nynaeve POV chapter, the first thing she ever says about Juilin is that his hat is silly, yellow and conical. She is literally unable to mention Juilin’s name without commenting on how much she hates this hat). It’s exhausting to be around someone this negative, and Nynaeve’s POV dominates this book, making her constant negativity impossible to ignore. In the end, it drains this book of much of its fun. Even some of the plot developments late in the book are overshadowed by Nynaeve’s personality, and that’s too bad because Jordan moves the story forward and takes it to some interesting places. I just wish Nynaeve didn’t have to be in any of those places.

  12. 4 out of 5

    Evgeny

    The Wheel weaves as The Wheel wills - this is Moiraine's favorite saying. In this book all of the Forsaken plot against The Dragon Reborn practically in broad daylight, high lords and ladies in different kingdoms pursue their own interests - the Dark One be damned, and the troubles in the White Tower split the Aes Sedai into two fractions. The interesting part about the latter is that I counted exactly two (arguably three) full Aes Sedai who try to support The Dragon Reborn with only one of them The Wheel weaves as The Wheel wills - this is Moiraine's favorite saying. In this book all of the Forsaken plot against The Dragon Reborn practically in broad daylight, high lords and ladies in different kingdoms pursue their own interests - the Dark One be damned, and the troubles in the White Tower split the Aes Sedai into two fractions. The interesting part about the latter is that I counted exactly two (arguably three) full Aes Sedai who try to support The Dragon Reborn with only one of them - Moiraine - being able to actively do it. I will talk about her later. So, what are the major players doing in this book? Mat is the most interesting character in this book, period. Mat is the most interesting character in the series for that matter as well as one of the most interesting characters in fantasy in general. He tries to escape his ta'veren pull only to end up as one of the best generals of the realm with a devoted army. Rand still tries to understand Aiel culture, be independent from both Aes Sedai and Wise Ones, and learn something useful from his Forsaken pet while keeping him on a leash. He also has to play the Game of Houses (extremely intricate political maneuvering) with the best of 'em. Perrin is not in the book at all; in fact his name was only briefly mentioned twice. Egwene does not have a POV, but she quickly becomes one of the most arrogant characters in the series, being able to outmatch any Aes Sedai of the Wise One in that department - and this says a lot. Moiraine on the other hand suddenly learned humility - probably the first Aes Sedai who really knows the meaning of the word - and I found that I can really sympathize with her in the book; sadly she does not have a POV either. Nynaeve and Elaine try to escape first from a country torn by a civil war and then from Whitecloaks stronghold. They try to reach the White Tower unaware of the changes in there and the fact that they would be treated like prisoners instead of heroes as the pair hope. To make their life more exciting, they are hunted by remaining known Black Ajah lead by an extremely pissed off Forsaken. Elaine acts sensible and normal for a change; she also does not have a lot of POV in the book. Nynaeve is the reason why some people complain about this book being a little slow at times. I need to explain some things. Nynaeve in the world of dreams shines and nothing she does in there is boring - and some things are outright heroic - but in the real world she still tries to bully everybody into obedience while doing this with a grace of an elephant in a china shop. It works fine as a comic relief, but seems like complete waste of pages if you take it seriously. I also need to point out the she is the only Aes Sedai - I am talking about a very broad definition of this term - who actually helped The Dragon Reborn, and she did it without any hidden agenda. In fact, she mentioned several times that the only two reasons she became Aes Sedai are to help him and to learn healing; I can support and understand both. All in all, this is a solid 5 star book with some very occasional slow - but not boring - pages. Expect major power shifts by the end of it.

  13. 5 out of 5

    Gavin

    Like all the rest of the Wheel of Time books this was an enjoyable and engaging read. It was not quite as well paced as the 4th book in the series, but Jordan has a knack for keeping my attention even when not a lot is actually happening. A sure sign of a master storyteller. The biggest shock was that this book did not feature Perrin at all! That left Rand and the pairing of Nynaeve and Elayne as the main POV characters. Luckily that worked out well enough as both story arcs were good. Rand and Like all the rest of the Wheel of Time books this was an enjoyable and engaging read. It was not quite as well paced as the 4th book in the series, but Jordan has a knack for keeping my attention even when not a lot is actually happening. A sure sign of a master storyteller. The biggest shock was that this book did not feature Perrin at all! That left Rand and the pairing of Nynaeve and Elayne as the main POV characters. Luckily that worked out well enough as both story arcs were good. Rand and the Aiel are on the move from Rhuidean. Mostly to save Cairhien from Couladin and his renegade Aiel. Rand also has to deal with attacks from a few of the Forsaken. Nynaeve and Elayne were on the move from Tanchico to Salidar, where they aimed to join up with the rebel Aes Sedai. Along the way the had to dodge Moghidean and the Black Ajah. Their journey was lengthy and while this was not the best book for Nynaeve as a character, she was a little too crazy at times, I did always enjoy her POV segments. Min, Siuan, Mat, Morgase, and Egwene all had supporting roles in the story. I loved the addition of Siuan and Morgase as POV characters. Egwene did not have a lot to do, but I did feel she showed a bit of growth and maturity. Mat was an ass for the majority of the book, but had a few good moments towards the end. This was another highly addictive read. I like the balance between the action and the somewhat weird and crazy humor that Jordan favours. Rating: 4.5 stars. Not quite as awesome as the 4th book, but still great. Audio Note: What to say? Krammer and Reading were as awesome as ever.

  14. 4 out of 5

    Alina

    "Who would rule a nation when he could have easier work, such as carrying water uphill in a sieve?"

  15. 5 out of 5

    Zitong Ren

    It’s interesting rereading Wheel of Time and really seeing how great of a series it is, in terms of being simply such great fantasy, but also recognising where some areas do happen to lack slightly, and I think that this was fairly prevalent in this novel. Now, whereas there were some truly epic scenes, especially towards the second half of the novel, which were so, my god, so good, there were also some fairly long travelogues where nothing really happened for dozens of pages at a time, and it w It’s interesting rereading Wheel of Time and really seeing how great of a series it is, in terms of being simply such great fantasy, but also recognising where some areas do happen to lack slightly, and I think that this was fairly prevalent in this novel. Now, whereas there were some truly epic scenes, especially towards the second half of the novel, which were so, my god, so good, there were also some fairly long travelogues where nothing really happened for dozens of pages at a time, and it was just characters bickering at each other. Now, I’m generally fairly lenient with my Wheel of Time ratings, as generally, for each book, while I have criticisms, I also adore the series so damning much as a whole that I tend to give books rating higher than I might otherwise give a book of the same quality. I feel for me that the series as a whole and what it accomplishes, the worldbuilding and the characters make it one of my series of all time, yet despite that, I would probably not actually name any of the individual books as my favourites of all time, as I tend to think of it as one body of work set in the same world, but the series overall is just fantastic. This book had so many great moments and scenes that were just absolutely top tier, 10/10 content, and I simply loved so much. I mean, everything that happened around Cairhien and that ending in Caemlyn, just fantastic. I also really loved Siuan Sanche and Morgase’s pov, and frankly, Morgase is such a legend with such a strong will, that no wonder Elayne is the sort of character that she is. We also have some interesting development from Rand, and especially Mat, who really started to shine in this book. Mat is one of my favourite characters ever, and I don’t know how far I will get into this reread before I decide reading something else, but I definitely make it through the whole series eventually, where Mat is really is such a remarkable figure in fantasy. After the prominent role Perrin played in The Shadow Rising, he didn’t even make a single appearance in this novel, which was fair enough, as the mini arc in book 4 did wrap up nicely, but it is also an interesting choice to make I found, as he is one of the main characters in the series, and he didn’t even make pop up this book at all. One thing this book could have been was maybe about 150 pages shorter. Nothing too important really happens with Nynaeve, Elayne and that whole situation on the western side of the continent, and a large chunk probably could have been cut. There were some nice moments and important sections to be sure, but a lot of it was also just them travelling along and slowly making progress and I feel much of that was really not all that necessary to the overall plot of the novel at all. The series as a whole does contain a lot of travelling and some really enjoy that, others don’t. I’m sort of in the middle, like, travelling is nice and all and we get to see the world being described, but sometimes it can really be overdone, and I’m aware it gets much worse in the slog books, but I don’t even remember if there was a lot of travelling or just that the plot didn’t move much. Also, as an end note, Moiraine deserves all of our respect. 9/10

  16. 5 out of 5

    Adam

    It's funny, because if you read other's reviews of this book, you'll notice that folks start to split into two camps. They're either ridiculously addicted and love it, or they're getting frustrated. They don't want a 400 plus page book in a series that should have been a trilogy. They don't like the fact that Jordan is "getting all epic on your ass" in this continuing study of the adventures of our characters. They don't like the fact that there are 1239724897923489084 more books after this one It's funny, because if you read other's reviews of this book, you'll notice that folks start to split into two camps. They're either ridiculously addicted and love it, or they're getting frustrated. They don't want a 400 plus page book in a series that should have been a trilogy. They don't like the fact that Jordan is "getting all epic on your ass" in this continuing study of the adventures of our characters. They don't like the fact that there are 1239724897923489084 more books after this one in the series. I'm first-camping it. Yep. I personally love the fact that I'm not finished with this book and done with the series. It ain't over, folks... not by a long shot. I'd say "Keep 'em coming", but Robert Jordan died and the 12th book is probably being written by someone else, so that phrase isn't likely to be crazy-fulfilled. Still, dang. Keep 'em coming.

  17. 5 out of 5

    Kyle

    The Wheel of Time series represents, for me, the perfect example of a guilty pleasure in the world of fantasy. This series is not actually written very well. Robert Jordan was not a very good wordsmith, and he really only knew how to say and describe things one way. His characters are generally unbelievable, and have ridiculous dialogue. The plot is tremendously predictable, and is heavily influenced (close to the point of being unoriginal) by the fantasy works that came before. The whole story i The Wheel of Time series represents, for me, the perfect example of a guilty pleasure in the world of fantasy. This series is not actually written very well. Robert Jordan was not a very good wordsmith, and he really only knew how to say and describe things one way. His characters are generally unbelievable, and have ridiculous dialogue. The plot is tremendously predictable, and is heavily influenced (close to the point of being unoriginal) by the fantasy works that came before. The whole story is much, much longer than it needs to be and obviously became bigger than Jordan could handle. That being said... I still enjoy these books. I can't rationally explain it, and I've re-read most of them at least a couple times. I shouldn't be so attached to them, yet I'm chained by my own embarrassed desire to periodically dive into the wheel of time. The only explanation I can think of, is that Jordan was a wizard. Not a skillful, subtle, thoughtful wizard; a sneaky, dark, and soul-sucking wizard who has enchanted me by his mediocre writing. Many people despise and look down their nose at these books, and I totally understand that. Many people also love and adore these books, and will forever place The Wheel of Time series upon their list of all-time favorite books. I can understand that impulse too. I realize this review is lacking in helpfulness, but the important thing to take away is this: try these books out. If you hate them, then fine. At least you'll have given them a chance. If you Love them, then great! Good for you, and you have a long, LONG, journey ahead of you filled with something you love. Either way, you'll have exposed yourself to one of the most famous fantasy series of all time.

  18. 5 out of 5

    Jonathan Terrington

    In a series as long as The Wheel of Time you get a lot of ups and downs. And my reaction to reading a series changes each time I read it. Where the previous book, number four of fourteen, is one of the greatest in the series, this follow up drops in pace and all around quality. The way I would consider this book is like this: Start (first 200 pages) : slow, very dry and missing that touch of magic Middle (200-400 pages): picked up the pace but a lot of filler content focusing on politicising End (4 In a series as long as The Wheel of Time you get a lot of ups and downs. And my reaction to reading a series changes each time I read it. Where the previous book, number four of fourteen, is one of the greatest in the series, this follow up drops in pace and all around quality. The way I would consider this book is like this: Start (first 200 pages) : slow, very dry and missing that touch of magic Middle (200-400 pages): picked up the pace but a lot of filler content focusing on politicising End (400 - 900 pages): the crucial elements fell into place, although they took their time Sadly that's probably Robert Jordan's major flaw as a writer. He paces his novels so that everything happens in a rush at the end and the best parts are. His other flaws include writing secondary characters which are too numerous, one dimensional and similar to each other as well as his occasionally poor sentence phrasing. However that all said he is incredibly compulsive as a writer in his Wheel of Time novels. I really don't know what else I should say about this book. In a series of fourteen novels when you've got up to this point as a reader you probably have an idea about whether you want to stop or continue. You're not quite up to 50 percent and you've almost seen all the good novels already. All I will say is that yes these books can be shallow at times, yes they can be generic, yes they can have patches of inane slow writing. However for the most part they are incredibly readable and full of interesting characters and ideas which have fuelled the fantasy genre. People talk about A Game of Thrones being the series which has been most important in continuing fantasy after Tolkien. I respectfully disagree. I would argue that The Wheel of Time and (what I've read of) The Malazan Book of The Fallen series are better works overall and the books that have fuelled interest in fantasy to a greater extent. However that is one opinion and one I'm willing to debate.

  19. 4 out of 5

    Dee

    I'm sorry, but by this point, if I had to read once more about "smoothed faced" ageless women (and insert many other repeated phrases of your choice here), I was going to lose my mind. I kept reading the books for the sake of completion, but by book 5, I was rapidly losing patience and interest. I think these books suffered from the syndrome of many long-running book (and TV) series--the lack of an overall cohesive plotline and the presence of far too many characters to keep active in an otherwi I'm sorry, but by this point, if I had to read once more about "smoothed faced" ageless women (and insert many other repeated phrases of your choice here), I was going to lose my mind. I kept reading the books for the sake of completion, but by book 5, I was rapidly losing patience and interest. I think these books suffered from the syndrome of many long-running book (and TV) series--the lack of an overall cohesive plotline and the presence of far too many characters to keep active in an otherwise entertaining and creatively built world.

  20. 5 out of 5

    Niki Hawkes - The Obsessive Bookseller

    On hold at 55%. I got sick of seeing it on my currently reading shelf lol.

  21. 4 out of 5

    Nimrod Daniel

    Another enjoyable ride with great characters. and finally we see the Forsaken coming to the front. It was good but not as good as The Shadow Rising, which was great all the way. While the book was very enjoyable, the first 2/3 has a slow pacing, with not much to happen. There were a few interesting events, but it dragged more than it should have. Keep in mind that 2/3 of such a mammoth is a length of a full book (and not a short one), so I did expect for more interesting stuff to happen. Having sa Another enjoyable ride with great characters. and finally we see the Forsaken coming to the front. It was good but not as good as The Shadow Rising, which was great all the way. While the book was very enjoyable, the first 2/3 has a slow pacing, with not much to happen. There were a few interesting events, but it dragged more than it should have. Keep in mind that 2/3 of such a mammoth is a length of a full book (and not a short one), so I did expect for more interesting stuff to happen. Having said that, the last third was brilliant, Jordan shows that when we wants to he can write great stuff. Chopping off 300 pages would have done a great service to this book. We see a lot of Rand, and he does grow as a characters, gets stronger, and always trying to be unpredictable. There's not much focus on Mat throughout the whole book even though he's a Ta'veren. Actually he just got some spotlight towards the end of the book, but when he did he shined. His future role in the series is getting clearer. Egwene is great as always. One of my favorite characters. Moiraine played her part well of giving some guidance to Rand when needed. They're stating to get along with each other. Aviendha starts to grow on me. She wasn't one of the favorites but does evolve into a compelling character. Second major plotline is from Nynaeve and Elayne's POV. Their plotline was mostly very slow, especially in the first 2/3, even though they have quite a lot of POV chapters. Actually unless they interacted with other important characters then their plotline just dragged too much. When they did interact with others is was much better. Elayne earned a few points, while Nynaeve was a bit annoying to be honest, though she did very well toward the ending. Min and a few others get a numerous POV chapters, but they had a pretty weak plotline. Forsaken - more of them are coming to the front in this book, which is great! Perrin is totally missing. After a significant development in book 4 I did expect to see him... :( All in all, the first 2/3 was just nice, while the last third was a roller-coaster of events (and also a few shocking ones). The first 2/3 was quite good but scratches the 4 stars (3.75-4/5). The last third shines bright as balefire (4.5-4.75/5). 4.25/5

  22. 4 out of 5

    Mayim de Vries

    I am in a fantasy hiatus at the moment and reading only books no sane person reads (most of them have between 1 to 10 ratings on GR). I hope to return to normal in spring and positively flood you with my one-star reviews. Until then, I will probably be on a slow and long WoT haul. Miss you all! May Also in the series: 1. The Eye of the World ★★★★☆ 2. The Great Hunt ★★★★☆ 3. The Dragon Reborn ★★★★☆ 5. The Fires of Heaven RTC 6. Lord of Chaos RTC 7. A Crown of Swords RTC 8. The Path of Daggers RTC 9. Win I am in a fantasy hiatus at the moment and reading only books no sane person reads (most of them have between 1 to 10 ratings on GR). I hope to return to normal in spring and positively flood you with my one-star reviews. Until then, I will probably be on a slow and long WoT haul. Miss you all! May Also in the series: 1. The Eye of the World ★★★★☆ 2. The Great Hunt ★★★★☆ 3. The Dragon Reborn ★★★★☆ 5. The Fires of Heaven RTC 6. Lord of Chaos RTC 7. A Crown of Swords RTC 8. The Path of Daggers RTC 9. Winter’s Heart RTC 10. Crossroads of Twighlight RTC 11. Knife of Dreams RTC 12. The Gathering Storm RTC 13. Towers of Midnight RTC 14. A Memory of Light RTC

  23. 5 out of 5

    Rob

    Executive Summary: I liked this a lot more on a second read than I did on my first. Audiobook: Another fantastic job by Michael Kramer and Kate Reading. Full Review I really liked Wheel of Time as a whole on my first read through, but I felt like things slow down a lot during the middle books. On my first read Perrin was my favorite character and Nynaeve annoyed me for much of the series. This book had no Perrin in it whatsoever. Probably because much of the last book focused on him. It also had Executive Summary: I liked this a lot more on a second read than I did on my first. Audiobook: Another fantastic job by Michael Kramer and Kate Reading. Full Review I really liked Wheel of Time as a whole on my first read through, but I felt like things slow down a lot during the middle books. On my first read Perrin was my favorite character and Nynaeve annoyed me for much of the series. This book had no Perrin in it whatsoever. Probably because much of the last book focused on him. It also had a lot of Nynaeve. In fact I'd probably call her the main protagonist (or possibly co-protagonist with Rand) of this one. She's started her infamous braid tugging. That said, the things I came to appreciate about her later in the series are more apparent to me on my reread and so far I don't find her nearly as I annoying as I recall. I also really like Mat, who became my favorite character at some point later in the series. I'm really enjoying his parts of the early books a lot more on my reread as well. There are some big developments for him and his plot line here, especially at the end. Overall, while not as strong as the first four books of the series, this is another solid entry if you're a fan of the series like I am. If you were struggling with the earlier books, you may struggle with this one more. So far I haven't lost steam on my rearead and plan to continue on with Lord of Chaos at some point. Hopefully that's another book I'll enjoy more the second time than I recall the first time.

  24. 5 out of 5

    Dirk Grobbelaar

    Tricksy review! This is my second attempt at trying to review The Fires of Heaven. I've got some pretty mixed feelings about the book. First of all, this is obviously a massive story, and most of what happens here underlines that fact. However, something that detracted from the epic sweep of the proceedings is the way the women are portrayed. For one thing, grown women going around strapping other grown women on the backside? Considering that about half, if not more, of this tome is dedicated to Tricksy review! This is my second attempt at trying to review The Fires of Heaven. I've got some pretty mixed feelings about the book. First of all, this is obviously a massive story, and most of what happens here underlines that fact. However, something that detracted from the epic sweep of the proceedings is the way the women are portrayed. For one thing, grown women going around strapping other grown women on the backside? Considering that about half, if not more, of this tome is dedicated to the female characters, there is a lot of that kind of thing going on. Also, most of them are barely indistinguishable from one another (a fact that some other reviewers already mention here). There is a lot of hissing and scratching and generally childish behaviour to be found here, and it eventually annoyed me. These books are pretty long already, but having your patience strained on so many different levels seems unfair. On the other hand, despite the marked absence of Perrin, the bits with Rand and Mat were really good. I'm hitting the long middle of the series now, but I am still invested enough to continue. I am curious to see how things are going to play out, with so many different pieces on the board. Events toward the end of the novel moved the plot along nicely, even though they created a whole new bag of loose ends. In the end, I liked it well enough, but cannot in good conscience give it more than three stars.

  25. 4 out of 5

    Claudia

    Rand has indeed become the Dragon Reborn; he is such a powerful character, far from the boy who could be easily manipulated by Aes Sedai. Most of the Aiel clans follow He Who Comes With The Dawn and together they cross the Spine of the World into the Westlands, trying to gather all nations under his flag in preparation for Tarmon Gaidon which is approaching fast. Mat is finally achieving his long-awaited fame. He makes use of the knowledge gained so painfully in Rhuidean and turns over the result Rand has indeed become the Dragon Reborn; he is such a powerful character, far from the boy who could be easily manipulated by Aes Sedai. Most of the Aiel clans follow He Who Comes With The Dawn and together they cross the Spine of the World into the Westlands, trying to gather all nations under his flag in preparation for Tarmon Gaidon which is approaching fast. Mat is finally achieving his long-awaited fame. He makes use of the knowledge gained so painfully in Rhuidean and turns over the result of the confrontation with the Shaido. However, as much as he wants to pull himself away from Rand, the Pattern is more powerful and their ta’veren bond not so frail to be broken on a whim. The White Tower is still broken; there are two sides now and no sister trusts the one next to her. Nynaeve is fighting one of the Forsaken and later on even uses her; Elayne makes a very bold move, one which ever find out, will probably end her association with the Aes Sedai. But more than the plot are the new details which are being thrown into the story with every volume. The more you read, the more secrets are unfolding under you eyes and fingers; the One Power holds yet so many secrets, if only the wielder knows how to use it. And there are so many more surprises yet to come; my fingers itch to start the 6th volume but I will take a break now, because I want to be able to savor it gradually.

  26. 4 out of 5

    Constantine

    Rating: Excellent Genre: Epic Fantasy When I finished reading the fourth book in the series, The Shadow Rising I liked it but I didn’t love it as much as I loved the first three books. This actually made me worry that the books that follow will be the same but I was wrong! This fifth book, The Fires of Heaven is AMAZING! It is as wonderful as the first three ones. Of course, it is a long and descriptive as the rest but this is nothing new when it comes to Robert Jordan. I am sure that by the time Rating: Excellent Genre: Epic Fantasy When I finished reading the fourth book in the series, The Shadow Rising I liked it but I didn’t love it as much as I loved the first three books. This actually made me worry that the books that follow will be the same but I was wrong! This fifth book, The Fires of Heaven is AMAZING! It is as wonderful as the first three ones. Of course, it is a long and descriptive as the rest but this is nothing new when it comes to Robert Jordan. I am sure that by the time you reached the fifth book you are very familiar with the writing style, worlds, the characters, and the overall atmosphere. “Storms rumble beyond the horizon, and the fires of heaven purge the earth. There is no salvation without destruction, no hope this side of death.” In The Shadow Rising Perrin and Faile had such long footage and appearance. I loved their presence there and their story was one of the interesting parts of that book. Guess what? There is no Perrin and Faile at all in this book. Robert Jordan has completely cut their story here. I think in the whole book there are just one or two mentions of Perrin’s name. I am not sure there was anything more than that. Did that affect the book? Not at all. Did I miss them? Actually, I did not because the other characters occupied my attention and had some really good stories and actions going for them. The major event is the loss of one important character! I didn’t expect that and did not see it coming. It is one of my favorite characters. I did not expect it to go that soon! I wonder how that will affect the next books. Something builds up between Rand and Aviendha and that was not expected. Always thought Aviendha disliked Rand a lot. Mat leads an army! Yep, another surprise to me and to him! Whenever this young man tries to escape he is pushed strongly into the events. “She was a soldier, a warrior in her way as much as I. This could have happened two hundred times these past twenty years. She knew it, and so did I. It was a good day to die.” Morgase’s story gets interesting in this book. In all the previous books her character did not get enough scope but in this one, some major events are depending on her. Siuan Sanche wants to learn everything from the world of dreams and asks Nynaeve to teach her. Nynaeve agrees that if Siuan let her study her body after the gentling. “There's an old saying in the Two Rivers" Rand said dryly. "'The louder a man tells you he's honest, the harder you must hold on to your purse.'" Another said, "The fox often offers to give the duck its pond.” As for the Forsakens, One is captured, two are killed and two are destined to work with Rand and Elayne. I enjoyed reading all the POVs in this book. Never felt bored or exhausted at all. I feel the adventure kept rolling from start to end. There was no stopping. This was such a satisfying read for me. So if like me you thought book 4 was not that solid compared to the previous ones, continue reading. Book 5 is a lot better.

  27. 5 out of 5

    Ashley

    This is the first Wheel of Time book I haven't enjoyed more than the last. I was hoping the loss of narrative control I'd been warned about would start later for me than book five. It varies from person to person, from all the reviews I've read; some people note a decline starting with this one, others as late as eight, some never (though those are rare, at least in my friends' GR reviews). Even though I ended up enjoying this book more than I enjoyed the first book in the series (which I though This is the first Wheel of Time book I haven't enjoyed more than the last. I was hoping the loss of narrative control I'd been warned about would start later for me than book five. It varies from person to person, from all the reviews I've read; some people note a decline starting with this one, others as late as eight, some never (though those are rare, at least in my friends' GR reviews). Even though I ended up enjoying this book more than I enjoyed the first book in the series (which I thought very derivative), it doesn't quite live up to the last two. There's just a little bit too much meandering, too much time spent on things that didn't need to be shown, or that were simply uninteresting for the larger narrative. But the strengths aren't quite strong enough to drown out the problems. To be honest, if I didn't know that these problems with pacing will only grow with each book, they would have been completely bearable, perhaps even ignorable. Many stories I love have sections I don't enjoy. But when you know it's just the first sign of symptoms of a larger disease*, they become harder to ignore. *And that disease is called narrative diarrhea. Or wait, actually, wouldn't it be chronic narrative constipation? Things are moving sloooowwwly and nothing is happpppeeenning. Poooop joooookes. Still, for every thing in the book that went on too long (like all the focus on the traveling menagerie, Nynaeve's obsession with people making her wear low-cut dresses, the ceaseless bickering between all the female characters, and men and women being up each other's butts all the time), there was actual plot movement and character development. At the beginning of the book, I was ready to strangle Nynaeve. She is arrogant, stubborn, and willfully blind, like a petulant child that thinks it knows everything. She's also argumentative. It's not a great combination. But something happens about halfway through that humbles her a great deal, and then she is humbled still further. After that, even though it's only the beginning of what will probably be a verrrrry slow process of character evolution, she's much more bearable as she wrestles with her faults. There is also progress for Rand, Mat, Moiraine, and Egwene (though none for Elayne, as Nynaeve takes center stage here) that alleviates some of my concerns with the way things were going for those characters. I still have concerns about Rand, though, and it's hard to tell from Jordan's style if he thinks they are problems, as well. He's too cold and hard and unkind. He has power, but he is not an effective leader, one who inspires trust and loyalty, even if he makes mostly all the right decisions. And yet people follow him. I'm not quite sure yet how I feel about Rand and his many love interests, so I think I'll leave that for a future review. I like his relationship with Aviendha for the most part, but that may just be because I like Aviendha. The main thing that is really starting to bug me, and which stands out much more when things are slow, is the battle of the sexes thing. I am really starting to hate the way Jordan writes his characters. Not only do the sexes constantly bicker with one another and ascribe stupid stereotypes to each other AT ALL TIMES, but he has characters of the same sex doing the same thing. All the women characters are constantly fighting with one another and being petulant. The men proclaim friendship, but you rarely see any evidence of it. I don't understand why Jordan can't just have his fucking male and female characters talk to each other first as individual people and not representatives of some foreign nation with different naughty bits. (STOP CALLING MEN FOOLS AND WOOLHEAD, for example. Like, maybe just fucking explain to Rand why that particular thing he just did was not a good idea instead of namecalling and stomping off?) It's too prevalent not to be the author's fault, as opposed to intentional flaws in his characters. Ultimately, I'm still really intrigued by the larger world and story Jordan created, no matter what his asshole characters are up to, and I know that's what's going to pull me through the sloggy bits to come. [3.5 stars]

  28. 4 out of 5

    Vikas

    Coming to the fifth book in this massive series I am happy to report that things are still fine in this saga and the story is still interesting. Like many people have commented already Perrin is absent from this book but Elayne, Nynaeve, Aviendha, Mat and Rand were fun to read about and to read about the different adventures they had together or separately. Now as might have already guess I shall be now moving onto the next story in the series and let's see what Shai'tan has in the plan now. I l Coming to the fifth book in this massive series I am happy to report that things are still fine in this saga and the story is still interesting. Like many people have commented already Perrin is absent from this book but Elayne, Nynaeve, Aviendha, Mat and Rand were fun to read about and to read about the different adventures they had together or separately. Now as might have already guess I shall be now moving onto the next story in the series and let's see what Shai'tan has in the plan now. I like the element taken from Hindu mythology and more about it. Thanks again for reading this. People who don't read generally ask me my reasons for reading. Simply put I just love reading and so to that end I have made it my motto to just Keep on Reading. I love to read everything except for Self Help books but even those once in a while. I read almost all the genre but YA, Fantasy, Biographies are the most. My favorite series is, of course, Harry Potter but then there are many more books that I just adore. I have bookcases filled with books which are waiting to be read so can't stay and spend more time in this review, so remember I loved reading this and love reading more, you should also read what you love and then just Keep on Reading.

  29. 4 out of 5

    Eon ♒Windrunner♒

    Another solid entry in the WoT series. Minor quibbles here and there, but otherwise highly enjoyable fantasy. SPOILERS PEOPLE. Highlights: (view spoiler)[ - ♪ Da, da, dum dum, dum - ♪♫ another one bites the dust! Forsaken, that is. - Padan Fain gets reunited with his long lost love. And then disappears for the rest of the book. - Morgase is pronounced dead. o_O Like anyone fell for that Mr Jordan. - Mat’s BATTLEMASTER © skills are revealed. - Bye bye Couladin - Rahvin kills Mat, Asmodean & Aviendha. WH Another solid entry in the WoT series. Minor quibbles here and there, but otherwise highly enjoyable fantasy. SPOILERS PEOPLE. Highlights: (view spoiler)[ - ♪ Da, da, dum dum, dum - ♪♫ another one bites the dust! Forsaken, that is. - Padan Fain gets reunited with his long lost love. And then disappears for the rest of the book. - Morgase is pronounced dead. o_O Like anyone fell for that Mr Jordan. - Mat’s BATTLEMASTER © skills are revealed. - Bye bye Couladin - Rahvin kills Mat, Asmodean & Aviendha. WHAT??? - Siuan vs Gareth. - Salidar road trip. - Lanfear LOSES. HER. SHIT. But it's ok. See Vicky Mendoza diagonal - Galad is not a dick. But causes a war. So point of view I suppose? - Nynaeve vs Moghedien escalates - A surprise trip to Seanchan. - Rand. Aviendha. ♪ When they get that feeling, ♫ they need, sex-u-al ♪ heeaaling ♫ - Murder Mystery (hide spoiler)]

  30. 5 out of 5

    Branwen Sedai *of the Brown Ajah*

    I cannot speak highly enough of this series. Its sweeping epic storytelling just blows so many other fantasy series out of the water. This is the fifth book in the Wheel of Time series. We don't see any of Perrin and Faile in this book, it mostly goes back and forth between Elayne and Nyneave fighting to get to Salidar unseen by Moghedian so they can seek the aid of the Aes Sedai, and Matt, Rand, Moiraine, Egwene, and Aviendha leading the Aiel from the Three Fold Land into cities like Cairhen an I cannot speak highly enough of this series. Its sweeping epic storytelling just blows so many other fantasy series out of the water. This is the fifth book in the Wheel of Time series. We don't see any of Perrin and Faile in this book, it mostly goes back and forth between Elayne and Nyneave fighting to get to Salidar unseen by Moghedian so they can seek the aid of the Aes Sedai, and Matt, Rand, Moiraine, Egwene, and Aviendha leading the Aiel from the Three Fold Land into cities like Cairhen and Camelyn. There's a lot to take in, which is to be expected from this series, but instead of it being daunting, it's actually refreshing. The story takes its time to unfold, so you get to have a full understanding of all the characters and their motivations. This is a must read series for any fan of epic fantasy series!

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