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THE PRE- AND PROTO-HISTORIC FINNS (BOTH EASTERN AND WESTERN) WITH THE MAGIC SONGS OF THE WEST FINNS VOLUME I & II Magic Songs of the West Finns, Vol. 1 This is the first volume of John Abercromby's extensive study of Finnish magic songs and their background. First he details the history, ethnography and linguistics of the Finns, indeed, constructs a century-long history o THE PRE- AND PROTO-HISTORIC FINNS (BOTH EASTERN AND WESTERN) WITH THE MAGIC SONGS OF THE WEST FINNS VOLUME I & II Magic Songs of the West Finns, Vol. 1 This is the first volume of John Abercromby's extensive study of Finnish magic songs and their background. First he details the history, ethnography and linguistics of the Finns, indeed, constructs a century-long history of the entire Finno-ugric group from the evolution of vocabulary. Finally in the last (long) chapter he gets to the first part of the exposition of the 'magic songs.' This is a summary of the various characters in the songs including a whole range of Finnish gods, goddesses, heroes, wizards, nature-spirits, and so on. He also goes into detail about Finnish Shamanistic practices, including drumming, trance ceremonies, and guide spirits. This book is a treasure trove of Finnish lore, and invites repeated browsings. Magic Songs of the West Finns, Vol. 2 This is the second volume of Abercromby's Magic Songs of the West Finns, which contains the core text here, a translation of Lönnrot's Suomen Kansan muinaisia Loitsurunoja, 'Bygone Magic Songs of the Finns.' Lönnrot was the scholar who pieced together the Kalevala, the national epic of Finland. Reminiscent of the Carmina Gadelica, the collection includes a wide variety of spells, formulae, prayers, and origin myths, all used on a regular basis by shamans, healers and peasants from ancient times in Finland. The songs include dozens of names of gods, goddesses, heroes, nature spirits, and weave them together using surreal and symbolic language. Although scholars could wish for better attribution of the source of each song, this collection is an incredible look into an archaic way of thought.


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THE PRE- AND PROTO-HISTORIC FINNS (BOTH EASTERN AND WESTERN) WITH THE MAGIC SONGS OF THE WEST FINNS VOLUME I & II Magic Songs of the West Finns, Vol. 1 This is the first volume of John Abercromby's extensive study of Finnish magic songs and their background. First he details the history, ethnography and linguistics of the Finns, indeed, constructs a century-long history o THE PRE- AND PROTO-HISTORIC FINNS (BOTH EASTERN AND WESTERN) WITH THE MAGIC SONGS OF THE WEST FINNS VOLUME I & II Magic Songs of the West Finns, Vol. 1 This is the first volume of John Abercromby's extensive study of Finnish magic songs and their background. First he details the history, ethnography and linguistics of the Finns, indeed, constructs a century-long history of the entire Finno-ugric group from the evolution of vocabulary. Finally in the last (long) chapter he gets to the first part of the exposition of the 'magic songs.' This is a summary of the various characters in the songs including a whole range of Finnish gods, goddesses, heroes, wizards, nature-spirits, and so on. He also goes into detail about Finnish Shamanistic practices, including drumming, trance ceremonies, and guide spirits. This book is a treasure trove of Finnish lore, and invites repeated browsings. Magic Songs of the West Finns, Vol. 2 This is the second volume of Abercromby's Magic Songs of the West Finns, which contains the core text here, a translation of Lönnrot's Suomen Kansan muinaisia Loitsurunoja, 'Bygone Magic Songs of the Finns.' Lönnrot was the scholar who pieced together the Kalevala, the national epic of Finland. Reminiscent of the Carmina Gadelica, the collection includes a wide variety of spells, formulae, prayers, and origin myths, all used on a regular basis by shamans, healers and peasants from ancient times in Finland. The songs include dozens of names of gods, goddesses, heroes, nature spirits, and weave them together using surreal and symbolic language. Although scholars could wish for better attribution of the source of each song, this collection is an incredible look into an archaic way of thought.

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  1. 4 out of 5

    Steve Cran

    Prehistoric Finns You might find it laughable that I found this book in a collection on Witchcraft and Magic. The only part of the book that really discussed magic and religion was at the end. Now if you are big on anthropology and archaeology then this book might have something for you. It is a bit dated I believe. The first part of the book addresses the unity of the Eastern and Western Finns. There is a discussion of the different Finnish groups like the Mordvins and their relations to their ne Prehistoric Finns You might find it laughable that I found this book in a collection on Witchcraft and Magic. The only part of the book that really discussed magic and religion was at the end. Now if you are big on anthropology and archaeology then this book might have something for you. It is a bit dated I believe. The first part of the book addresses the unity of the Eastern and Western Finns. There is a discussion of the different Finnish groups like the Mordvins and their relations to their neighbor like the Teutron, Lapps and even Turish and Iranian tribes. THe book renders a thorough discussion on skulltuypes, habits, tools and customs of the Finns. A bit dry and boring for me. Some  of the customs included buying a wife or abducting here if the price was too high. THe husband could also live with the wife's family if he could not pay off the bride price all at once. There was no rule against polygamy and a sun could inherit his fathers wives. The Finns came from somewhere in Asia and by and large they were forest dwellers. THey were quite primitive until they came in contact with Iranians traders who taught them how to farm honey from bees and get fur from animals. Their religion underwent a radical transformation after they came into contact with Turksih tribesman who taught them about fasting, religious purity and monotheism.  ALthoughnthe Finnish religion was by and large Christianity albeit after quite a late date. THey were also civilized under the tutelage of trhe slavs. Magic for the Finns did not consist of spell craft and intricate ceremonies but rather it consisted of a Shaman contacting the spirit world and finding out why someone was afflicted with an illness or experiencing misfortune . There were healing works for many affliction. SHamans were , as described by the authors and the research they explored , as somewhat eccentric characters prone to strange behaviors and even eplictic fits. THe position was handed down from father to son. To be a good Shaman one had to be a good mimic. But how was someone magically ordained. Well some say that milk was fed to a child that was stolen from the underworld. Other say the baby was washed on a rock with water stolen from the underworld  . Or a baby could be held in the lap of a sorceress from Lappland. THe ancient Fins had a variety of Gods. Ukko was the sky god. Usually aloof called on only in emergencies and was not offered regular sacrifices. Illmarien was another version of the sky god but he had a smiths anvil and hammer and from him would come sparkes that gave mankind fire and lightning. Vainomen was a god of magic and song. Most finnish magic was in fact song driven. Tapio was the forest god. THE forest god had a beard of moss and would protect livestock and help the hunters with game. It was not good to encounter him in the forest. He had a wife who depending on her mood could be a lady of light and a fiend of darkness. It is believed that she had a hollow bloodless back. THe Lempos were devious forest spirits that tried to mislead travelers. Elves could come out of water and grow really fast. Brownies cam out and helped under certain condition and giants were just plain mean. Water spirts would kill you. The Ancient Finns believed in propitiating spirits that were closest to you as they would be most helpful. The Gods especially the sky gods were not so helpful due to their distance away from humanity. Usually familiars or family guardian spirits were offered such things as blood smeared fat, food, salt and groat. When someone died their spirit lived for 4 years until the body finally decayed. THE sky god had three wives the most well  was mother Mother Kave who could be called on to help in cases of illness .

  2. 4 out of 5

    Monty Milne

    The author was a distinguished nineteenth century Scottish archaeologist and aristocrat. He became the 5th and last Baron Abercromby a few years before his death in 1924, and endowed a Chair of Prehistoric Archaeology at Edinburgh University - and it is is pleasing to note that Edinburgh still has a fine tradition of academic archaeology as a result. I found this book fascinating, although of course it shows its age. When it was published in 1898 the fascinating developments in DNA were an undrea The author was a distinguished nineteenth century Scottish archaeologist and aristocrat. He became the 5th and last Baron Abercromby a few years before his death in 1924, and endowed a Chair of Prehistoric Archaeology at Edinburgh University - and it is is pleasing to note that Edinburgh still has a fine tradition of academic archaeology as a result. I found this book fascinating, although of course it shows its age. When it was published in 1898 the fascinating developments in DNA were an undreamed of future development, so in analysing ancient remains Abercromby relied on cranial measurements to try and tease out the mysteries of a prehistoric past - a very imperfect measure, which gives us a lot of dry and rather dull stuff in the early part of the book. But things pick up when he considers the few but fascinating artefacts - which are illustrated in the book. There is for me a great deal of fascination in wondering at the strange pagan figurines turned up from swamps and forests of the far north, and an intriguing exoticism in considering the Mordvins, Ostiaks, Zirians and other romantic-sounding tribes scattered over the vast expanse of the Finno-Ugrian heartland. The second volume collects a large number of ancient spells and myths which are especially fascinating to anyone who has read the Kalevala (as any readers of this obscure work are almost bound to have done). It is true that the sheer volume of material can at times be repetitious, but immersion in this book has been a deep pleasure, and like the Kalevala and the music of Sibelius conjures up what for me is a deeply appealing sensation of endless forest, misty lakes, warbling shamans, and mysterious sorcerers at the fascinating northern edges of time and space. This book won't be to everyone's taste, but if your fancy is tickled by the myths and legends of the pagan north, then you might enjoy this as much as I did.

  3. 5 out of 5

    TEELOCK Mithilesh

  4. 5 out of 5

    Heather

  5. 5 out of 5

    Jenne Kaivo

  6. 5 out of 5

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  9. 4 out of 5

    Z. Janson

  10. 4 out of 5

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  11. 4 out of 5

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  12. 5 out of 5

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