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The Ultimates vs. the Ultimate X-Men: the battle begins. When the X-Men do the worst thing they could to humanity, the government orders Captain America, Iron Man, Thor and the rest of the Ultimates to bring them down. A small but lethal army, the Ultimates were created to face these and other newly rising threats to mankind. But the X-Men's founder, Professor X, hasn't be The Ultimates vs. the Ultimate X-Men: the battle begins. When the X-Men do the worst thing they could to humanity, the government orders Captain America, Iron Man, Thor and the rest of the Ultimates to bring them down. A small but lethal army, the Ultimates were created to face these and other newly rising threats to mankind. But the X-Men's founder, Professor X, hasn't been training his students for nothing -- and the youngs mutants just might take out the Ultimates first. Collecting: Ultimate War 1-4


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The Ultimates vs. the Ultimate X-Men: the battle begins. When the X-Men do the worst thing they could to humanity, the government orders Captain America, Iron Man, Thor and the rest of the Ultimates to bring them down. A small but lethal army, the Ultimates were created to face these and other newly rising threats to mankind. But the X-Men's founder, Professor X, hasn't be The Ultimates vs. the Ultimate X-Men: the battle begins. When the X-Men do the worst thing they could to humanity, the government orders Captain America, Iron Man, Thor and the rest of the Ultimates to bring them down. A small but lethal army, the Ultimates were created to face these and other newly rising threats to mankind. But the X-Men's founder, Professor X, hasn't been training his students for nothing -- and the youngs mutants just might take out the Ultimates first. Collecting: Ultimate War 1-4

30 review for Ultimate X-Men, Vol. 5: Ultimate War

  1. 5 out of 5

    James DeSantis

    The war of X-Men verse AVENGERS! I mean Ultimates! So Magneto is a real piece of shit. After getting his memories back he decides to tell the world they're super fucked. So Xavier goes into hiding with his X-Men to try and get him back. At the same time Nick Fury assembles is Ultimates team to hunt down Magneto and slap a little sense into him. In doing so we have X-Men and Ultimates going head to head mostly because Magneto is pulling all the right strings. This was a lot better than the last v The war of X-Men verse AVENGERS! I mean Ultimates! So Magneto is a real piece of shit. After getting his memories back he decides to tell the world they're super fucked. So Xavier goes into hiding with his X-Men to try and get him back. At the same time Nick Fury assembles is Ultimates team to hunt down Magneto and slap a little sense into him. In doing so we have X-Men and Ultimates going head to head mostly because Magneto is pulling all the right strings. This was a lot better than the last volume. A lot more fun with some great fights. Ever wanna see Wolverine take on the Ultimates/Avengers and fuck some shit up? He does some narly shit here that I loved. Oh and also we all know Wolverine did some sneaky shit to Cyclops, it's pretty screwed up how manipulative he is here. Also, Magneto as a villain is pretty cool here, he's super strong. My re-read of the Ultimate X-Men universe has been pretty fun tus far. A 4 out of 5.

  2. 5 out of 5

    Chelsea 🏳️‍🌈

    As far as Ults books go, this wasn't all that bad? Granted, I hadn't read any of the Ultimate X-Men books so I was a bit lost as to how all of that worked. How old is Jean Grey here since Wolverine's apparently in love with her? I'm... uncomfortable. Storm's dialogue was god awful. Other than that, the plot was okay. Avengers v X-Men because Magento is terrorizing America and threatening to kill all homo sapiens. As per ushe... This time the Ultimates are tasked with taking them down and Charles As far as Ults books go, this wasn't all that bad? Granted, I hadn't read any of the Ultimate X-Men books so I was a bit lost as to how all of that worked. How old is Jean Grey here since Wolverine's apparently in love with her? I'm... uncomfortable. Storm's dialogue was god awful. Other than that, the plot was okay. Avengers v X-Men because Magento is terrorizing America and threatening to kill all homo sapiens. As per ushe... This time the Ultimates are tasked with taking them down and Charles Xavier's X-Men at the same time for lying about Magneto being dead. I'm well aware that I'm rating this higher than most Ults books because it wasn't aggressively bad, women weren't being abused and the Hulk only ate people off screen. So... yay?

  3. 4 out of 5

    Nicolo

    The title is an appropriate name for what was a historic clash between two of Marvel’s biggest super-teams. This pre-dated this year’s Avengers Vs. X-Men event by almost a decade, but this was set in the alternate Ultimate Universe. On the run and underground, the mutants gave as good as they got against the government-sanctioned Ultimates, this universe’s version of the Avengers. This miniseries sets up Mark Millar’s final arc on the title he helped launch with Adam Kubert. Millar, with Brian Be The title is an appropriate name for what was a historic clash between two of Marvel’s biggest super-teams. This pre-dated this year’s Avengers Vs. X-Men event by almost a decade, but this was set in the alternate Ultimate Universe. On the run and underground, the mutants gave as good as they got against the government-sanctioned Ultimates, this universe’s version of the Avengers. This miniseries sets up Mark Millar’s final arc on the title he helped launch with Adam Kubert. Millar, with Brian Bendis, was one of the key architects of this then brand new universe and he ran and played with the concept. Unencumbered with continuity, he mined the X-Men’s decades old history for ideas and characters to “Ultimatize.” Along with Bendis’ Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate X-Men was one of the key books that served as pillars of this new universe. This miniseries, with art by Chris Bachalo was better than the payoff in Millar’s final Ultimate X-Men arc. It was tightly scripted and had unified for four issues that ended in a cliff-hanger. It was what the culminating arc was not.

  4. 4 out of 5

    Sesana

    This is the best volume of Ultimate X-Men yet. It has the tightest scripting and plotting yet, even if this is really just a prologue to the big event in the next volume. But overall, Millar is very prone to the great stumbling block of the Ultimate universe as a whole: he's so busy beating us over the head with how much "edgier" these characters are than the ones we know that they don't really become their own people. And given when this was written, for "edgy" read "jackass". This is the best volume of Ultimate X-Men yet. It has the tightest scripting and plotting yet, even if this is really just a prologue to the big event in the next volume. But overall, Millar is very prone to the great stumbling block of the Ultimate universe as a whole: he's so busy beating us over the head with how much "edgier" these characters are than the ones we know that they don't really become their own people. And given when this was written, for "edgy" read "jackass".

  5. 5 out of 5

    Bookwraiths

    Loved this X-Men and Ultimates story line. You can't get better than Magneto being a completely savage zealot and the good guys bickering and fighting one another before taking the self-righteous madman on. The only thing I didn't totally love was the art. It was good, but at times, the main characters looked damn odd. Loved this X-Men and Ultimates story line. You can't get better than Magneto being a completely savage zealot and the good guys bickering and fighting one another before taking the self-righteous madman on. The only thing I didn't totally love was the art. It was good, but at times, the main characters looked damn odd.

  6. 4 out of 5

    Mike

    Something about this book doesn't sit right with me. Sure it's got Ultimate X-Men and the Ultimates. Sure it's written by Mark Millar who's been a favourite of mine for a while. It's got some aggressive tactics and little of the "heroes posing while they monologue". I don't know if this stuff ages particularly well. I read most of Ultimate X-Men a number of years ago, which I enjoyed quite a bit then. But the thought occurs to me that this stuff doesn't age particularly well - too many then-curre Something about this book doesn't sit right with me. Sure it's got Ultimate X-Men and the Ultimates. Sure it's written by Mark Millar who's been a favourite of mine for a while. It's got some aggressive tactics and little of the "heroes posing while they monologue". I don't know if this stuff ages particularly well. I read most of Ultimate X-Men a number of years ago, which I enjoyed quite a bit then. But the thought occurs to me that this stuff doesn't age particularly well - too many then-current references that stand out like a sore thumb eight years later. Or maybe it's how UN-subtly Millar wants to demonstrate how "different" these guys are from the MarvelU originals ("it's times like this I realise precisely why you and I are divorced, Moira", said Xavier). Yeah I get it - but it sure brings the story's rhythm to a screeching halt every time you jab me in the eye like that. I'm also not such a huge fan of the art - specifically, the caricature-like exaggeration in the characters' heads, and how confusing the action can be. The colours & inks are beautiful as all computer-generated work is. Still, once the plot gets rolling it's pretty solid action and nice unpredictable twists and turns.

  7. 5 out of 5

    Richard

    Incredible artwork, great story. Another gripping read from Mark Millar and the first comic book I ever owned! The showdown between the Ultimates (the Avengers) and the X-men was epic, and a most thrilling experience to see Wolverine pitted against Iron Man and tearing him to shreds, while the God of Thunder comes up against Storm. These were just some battles among many.

  8. 4 out of 5

    Leila Anani

    After beast accidentally revealed to Blob that Magneto was alive the brotherhood freed him and restored him to his former glory. Magneto has issued a challenge for America to surrender power to mutants or be eliminated. S.H.I.E.L.D headed by Nick Fury is not taking it likely and has created the Ultimates (basically a prototype of the Avengers: Captain America, Thor, Ironman, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Hulk and Wasp) to defeat Magneto. Suspicious of the X-Men he's also ordered them to be taken out as After beast accidentally revealed to Blob that Magneto was alive the brotherhood freed him and restored him to his former glory. Magneto has issued a challenge for America to surrender power to mutants or be eliminated. S.H.I.E.L.D headed by Nick Fury is not taking it likely and has created the Ultimates (basically a prototype of the Avengers: Captain America, Thor, Ironman, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Hulk and Wasp) to defeat Magneto. Suspicious of the X-Men he's also ordered them to be taken out as well! Fury has enlisted Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to work with the Ultimates against their father. Fans who want to see Avengers vs. X-Men need to check this one out - it's pretty good for what it is with some nice interaction: Storm vs. Thor, Colossus vs. Ironman and Captain America reminding Wolverine of a past where they fought on the same side of which he has no memory. Personally I prefer the X-Men solo, it gives more room for subtlety - here there are so many characters and a major story that there's little room for character development, still saying that it's fast paced and should please fans of both teams.

  9. 5 out of 5

    Ben Nealis

    magneto was cruel as can be. i mean he shot his own son/quicksilver's knees to shreds and din not feel one ounce of guilt.good book though. magneto was cruel as can be. i mean he shot his own son/quicksilver's knees to shreds and din not feel one ounce of guilt.good book though.

  10. 4 out of 5

    Kimberly

    Still loving it! But now I'm sad because I'm out of comics. I just ordered 6-9 though, so more reviews to come. Still loving it! But now I'm sad because I'm out of comics. I just ordered 6-9 though, so more reviews to come.

  11. 4 out of 5

    Jedhua

    Other Useful Reviews: Sesana's review Book Info: This collection contains Ultimate War issues #1-4. ABSOLUTE RATING: {2.5+/5 stars} STANDARDIZED RATING: <3/5 stars> It's been six months since the X-Men supposedly killed Magneto in Washington D.C. But soon after the Brotherhood of Mutants blow up the Brooklyn Bridge and kill 800 New Yorkers, the country finds out the hard way that Magneto is in fact still alive and kicking. After formally taking responsibility for the attack, Magneto grants human Other Useful Reviews: Sesana's review Book Info: This collection contains Ultimate War issues #1-4. ABSOLUTE RATING: {2.5+/5 stars} STANDARDIZED RATING: <3/5 stars> It's been six months since the X-Men supposedly killed Magneto in Washington D.C. But soon after the Brotherhood of Mutants blow up the Brooklyn Bridge and kill 800 New Yorkers, the country finds out the hard way that Magneto is in fact still alive and kicking. After formally taking responsibility for the attack, Magneto grants humanity another six months to prepare themselves for a mutant-led global takeover. In response to this startling turn of events, the US government puts the Ultimates to the task of neutralizing this threat before it's too late. In the course of their investigation, S.H.I.E.L.D. discovers that Charles Xavier knowingly spared Magneto's life and kept this decision a secret from the public. When Iron Man and a strike team of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents storm the X-Men's mansion seeking answers, they find that the X-Men are nowhere to be found. And shockingly, there's evidence to suggest that they have joined forces with Magneto! All the information provided above can be found in the first chapter of this four-part miniseries. It's a rather unimaginative premise for a superhero vs. superhero book, and it failed to have me hooked at the last page of the issue. Immediately, I thought to myself that there was no way in Hell the X-Men would team-up with the Brotherhood; none of the Ultimate X-Men books preceding this indicate the slightest possibility of such an alliance, so it didn't shock me to find out later that things were nowhere as simple as Millar would have me believe (and that's putting it diplomatically). And I know the book is advertised as an X-Men vs. Avengers book, but it's really more like an X-Men vs. Avengers vs. The Brotherhood of Mutants book. This seemingly small technicality could probably have worked more in Millar's favor and made the story more interesting, but nothing much is done to capitalize on it. Worse yet, I could never bring myself to really appreciate what was at stake. I really hate when comics try and tease for a really epic battle, and then use some half-assed excuse to justify it. Without "spoiling" too much here, I'll just say that there was a point during the first half of the story where the Ultimates are given the chance to try and hear the X-Men's excuse for their actions. But instead of at least *attempting* to eliminate one of two extremely formidable adversaries, the Ultimates childishly opt to ignore their testimony and take on both groups. With the fate of the entire free world hanging in the balance, I don't think it gets much more irresponsible than that. And am I supposed to believe Nick Fury also just stupidly went along with that decision too? Most of the book's weakest moments take place when Millar slows down and shows the X-Men living together in their new secret base. In terms of writing, this is definitely an improvement over volume one, but Millar still appears unable to convey emotion in his characters, and relationships end up feeling empty. Perhaps the most blatant example of this was the team's reaction when they're told that Cyclops has died back in the Savage Land. I'm well aware that the team already had a lot to worry about when they got the news, but the lack of grief was pretty hard to ignore. In fact, it was mostly just business as usual for the team, and I could detect relatively little difference in attitude. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Cyclops is one of the top three most central members of the X-Men! If the writer couldn't handle properly portraying the team's loss in the context of everything else he had going on, maybe he should have just waited until early in the next volume to bring it up fresh. After two volumes featuring the character, I believe by now I've seen enough of Millar's Magneto to see that he's really not going anywhere new. At this point, I'm in two minds about the character. On the one hand, he does some really badass stuff here – combat-wise, and intellectually speaking – and he almost appears even more formidable than his Earth 616 counterpart. However, I find myself being annoyed by his presence; Magneto sounds way too vain and pompous, which does little to make me feel sympathetic towards his cause. And on the other side, when hearing from a non-mutant top government official in issue #1, Magneto is referred to as a "creature," a "thing," and a "monster" all on the same page. I suppose that's supposed to be ironic (given Magneto's complete disdain of humanity), but to me it just sounded too awkward and deliberate a jab at xenophobia/racism. Judging from the few books I've read illustrated by Bachalo, I think I tend to generally enjoy his work. Whether what happened here can be attributed by a lack of experience or the poor selection of a colorist, is beyond me. All I know is that something was off, and this doesn't quite match the quality level I witnessed during his work on Amazing Spider-Man . And to make matters worse, there were times when the fight scenes were somewhat difficult to interpret. So the book was no more than mildly agreeable in the artwork department. For me to say I had gotten something positive out of his run, Millar probably would have had to dial down the testosterone by half, as well as put more effort into the characterization and dialogue. I'm sure that even Kirkman's later work on the title isn't any worse than his, and that's a very depressing thought. So if Return of the King is any better than this, it couldn't be any better than 3 stars. It's a decent score, but I'm not willing to take that gamble.

  12. 4 out of 5

    Adam

    This was a really good addition to the series. Normally the fighting between one group of heroes and another seems too fabricated, but here in this series and with the fact that mutants still haven't developed a really good long-term reputation, it actually made quite a lot of good sense. The battle between the two groups was very well-executed and it was impressive to see them standoff against each other. Especially considering that the Avengers are the ones who've gotten all the movies and mad This was a really good addition to the series. Normally the fighting between one group of heroes and another seems too fabricated, but here in this series and with the fact that mutants still haven't developed a really good long-term reputation, it actually made quite a lot of good sense. The battle between the two groups was very well-executed and it was impressive to see them standoff against each other. Especially considering that the Avengers are the ones who've gotten all the movies and made to seem like the strongest heroes... but in this comic the mutants are *incredible* in their powers against the Avengers/S.H.I.E.L.D. (especially when the right ones are pitted up against each other). Seemed quite epic with the return of Magneto and the devastation it caused. The only fairly low point was: what was up with the fake little negotiation between Professor X and Magneto? It took quite a few pages but seemed entirely irrelevant to the overall story. Ah well. Maybe it'll come back again later. The artwork was consistently great though (with only a few panels I would've preferred to be drawn better) and the story fit it perfectly. I read it through in basically one sitting and it makes me excited to see what will follow it up.... definitely things have been shaken up a lot.

  13. 5 out of 5

    Adam Stone

    One of the better Avengers vs X-Men comic runs of all-time, but that's a pretty low bar. Unlike most of their entanglements in the Marvel proper Universe, the inciting incident for the two teams doing battle is completely palusible. Inciting incident, stateent of purpose, action, and plot development are paced perfectly for a summer blockbuster film, which is what this series is supposed to be analagous to. Unfortunately, the characters are all far too quippy in a very early 21st century way so One of the better Avengers vs X-Men comic runs of all-time, but that's a pretty low bar. Unlike most of their entanglements in the Marvel proper Universe, the inciting incident for the two teams doing battle is completely palusible. Inciting incident, stateent of purpose, action, and plot development are paced perfectly for a summer blockbuster film, which is what this series is supposed to be analagous to. Unfortunately, the characters are all far too quippy in a very early 21st century way so the dialogue feels dated, even without the very specific Bush-era references. I'm nearly always a fan of Chris Bachalo's art, but I hate the way he draws Magneto in this volume. The helmet is shaped so that you'd swear his head was hourglass shaped. The coloring is also a little dark for my taste, but that seems to be an Ultimate-line edict from editorial. This is a perfectly fun little book to pick up whether you're following The Ultimates, The Ultimate X-Men, both, or if you're just a fan of the first three X-movies. It doesn't fit the tone of the Marvel Cinematic Avengers.

  14. 4 out of 5

    B

    This Captain America just flies off the handle all the time. On the other hand, why does Nick Fury hate mutants? And the whole thing where Professor X only keeps "mutant minds" online and ignores the Wasp (even though his mindreading powers should see through the whole thing)? It worked when I read it, but definitely not on reconsideration. The one thing this book sells well is that Magneto and Professor X are leagues stronger than everyone else. That kind of gets lost in the main books where the This Captain America just flies off the handle all the time. On the other hand, why does Nick Fury hate mutants? And the whole thing where Professor X only keeps "mutant minds" online and ignores the Wasp (even though his mindreading powers should see through the whole thing)? It worked when I read it, but definitely not on reconsideration. The one thing this book sells well is that Magneto and Professor X are leagues stronger than everyone else. That kind of gets lost in the main books where the other characters need to have some kind of purpose and Magneto needs to get his clock cleaned once a year.

  15. 4 out of 5

    Dr K P Smith

    Not a fan of the adolescent style of darkness. Almost everyone in the book is a bit of a dick. Wolverine? Bit of a dick. Captain America. Also a dick. Tony Stark, sleazy alcoholic douche. I'm guessing this was written in an era where extra gore made stuff "cool" bit for me it just made it seem not so much morally ambiguous but more as though it's trying too hard to be grown up. I suppose it's a bit like Civil War as avengers fight X men (for no valid reason as far as I can tell) but just less in Not a fan of the adolescent style of darkness. Almost everyone in the book is a bit of a dick. Wolverine? Bit of a dick. Captain America. Also a dick. Tony Stark, sleazy alcoholic douche. I'm guessing this was written in an era where extra gore made stuff "cool" bit for me it just made it seem not so much morally ambiguous but more as though it's trying too hard to be grown up. I suppose it's a bit like Civil War as avengers fight X men (for no valid reason as far as I can tell) but just less interesting.

  16. 4 out of 5

    Noah

    Well, I certainly wasn't hoping for 3/4 issues of this to be setup, but that's what we got. It feels like the actual "Ultimate War" is yet to happen in the Ultimate X-Men series, and the Ultimates are a bit of an afterthought. If it wasn't for the short fight between my favorite X-Men, Storm, and my second favorite Ultimate, Thor, this would be slotted under a 3/5. Petty, I know, but I just wasn't captivated, even though I understand why the issues kind of needed to flow this way for the univers Well, I certainly wasn't hoping for 3/4 issues of this to be setup, but that's what we got. It feels like the actual "Ultimate War" is yet to happen in the Ultimate X-Men series, and the Ultimates are a bit of an afterthought. If it wasn't for the short fight between my favorite X-Men, Storm, and my second favorite Ultimate, Thor, this would be slotted under a 3/5. Petty, I know, but I just wasn't captivated, even though I understand why the issues kind of needed to flow this way for the universe as a whole to work.

  17. 5 out of 5

    Sean Buzzard

    I am rereading this right now and still find that Millars work is head and shoulders above Marvels output past and present. Magneto is more terrifying than ever portrayed, Captain America is remade into something you could actually see existing in the real world, Wolverine re-built to be radar invisible? Millar was riding some kind of creative lightning in this period. How Cap beats Logan? C’mon. The MCU time and again uses this stuff as source material, but they could never convey the sense of th I am rereading this right now and still find that Millars work is head and shoulders above Marvels output past and present. Magneto is more terrifying than ever portrayed, Captain America is remade into something you could actually see existing in the real world, Wolverine re-built to be radar invisible? Millar was riding some kind of creative lightning in this period. How Cap beats Logan? C’mon. The MCU time and again uses this stuff as source material, but they could never convey the sense of threat and high stakes of Millars early Ultimate universe work.

  18. 4 out of 5

    Jason

    I'm a huge fan of the X-men but have had mixed reactions while revisiting this series. Here begins Millar's final year on this title and his penultimate volume and it actually is a lot of fun. Magneto is back, the Ultimates (this Universe's version of the Avengers) think Xavier and the X-men are behind his return and that they're all in cahoots. This sets up several moving parts and creates an exciting, propulsive plot. The art is magnificent and this was a fun book. I'm a huge fan of the X-men but have had mixed reactions while revisiting this series. Here begins Millar's final year on this title and his penultimate volume and it actually is a lot of fun. Magneto is back, the Ultimates (this Universe's version of the Avengers) think Xavier and the X-men are behind his return and that they're all in cahoots. This sets up several moving parts and creates an exciting, propulsive plot. The art is magnificent and this was a fun book.

  19. 4 out of 5

    Nate

    Ultimate War is a big step up from what has been a mostly disappointing run of Ultimate X-Men for me. The bulk of Millar's story feels like a three way philosophical chess match between Magneto, the X-Men and the Ultimate. It is smart and thoughtful and the ending slugfest is well earned. Ultimate War is a big step up from what has been a mostly disappointing run of Ultimate X-Men for me. The bulk of Millar's story feels like a three way philosophical chess match between Magneto, the X-Men and the Ultimate. It is smart and thoughtful and the ending slugfest is well earned.

  20. 4 out of 5

    Natalie

    This story line is stupid. Like why are the Ultimates so keen on going to war. Are you that bored? Also, if someone is trying to be your ally and fix a mistake that they made, maybe you should consider it?

  21. 5 out of 5

    Simon

    Found this on sale, not realising was Vol.5 of larger 11 part series. Heroes fighting each other theme was much better in 'Civil War'. Overall rare disappointing Mark Millar writing (cartoonish and dull) and art was ordinary. Found this on sale, not realising was Vol.5 of larger 11 part series. Heroes fighting each other theme was much better in 'Civil War'. Overall rare disappointing Mark Millar writing (cartoonish and dull) and art was ordinary.

  22. 5 out of 5

    Jim

    Really didn't love this volume as much. I think some of it may have been because of the art, which just seemed darker and harder to discern, and also some of the lettering, which was difficult to read. The story wasn't really as exciting either. Really didn't love this volume as much. I think some of it may have been because of the art, which just seemed darker and harder to discern, and also some of the lettering, which was difficult to read. The story wasn't really as exciting either.

  23. 5 out of 5

    Marloges

    I like these kinds of crossover events but the conflict between the Ultimates and the X-Men felt really forced at times. Still, Magneto as a villian saves this whole thing on his own and makes this a really thrilling introduction to another arc.

  24. 4 out of 5

    Gamal Hennessy

    An unappealing art style and heavy handed characterizations combine with a slow burn of a plot the ends on a less than satisfying cliffhanger

  25. 5 out of 5

    Caleb Abel

    Oof. This and Vol. 4 are a very rough stretch of Ultimate X-Men. Vol. 5 basically tries to distract from the HORRIBLE retcon of the Vol. 4 with big names in a similarly weak arc. Very disappointing.

  26. 4 out of 5

    Radu Anastase

    Not sure why, but although the storyline is good, the way it was told, was not entertaining. Also, not a big fan of the cover art and the art in general from this volume.

  27. 4 out of 5

    Richard Howlett

    I love Bachalo's art, but he does have a tendency to make simple things look complicated, and he was definitely guilty of that here. As a standalone mini-series this didn't really deliver anything. I love Bachalo's art, but he does have a tendency to make simple things look complicated, and he was definitely guilty of that here. As a standalone mini-series this didn't really deliver anything.

  28. 5 out of 5

    Kimberley

    this just stressed me out, leave my babies alone ultimates!!! the xmen did nothing wrong ever i love them :(

  29. 5 out of 5

    Timo

    Not so much war as the title lead me to expect. But the art was messy and arty so that made this hard to read as I could not figure out what was happening in some panels.

  30. 5 out of 5

    Charles

    This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. Stuff I Read – Ultimate War So here is where most messages are dropped entirely and what follows is just an old fashioned hero vs hero brawl. Which is kind of nice. And here, finally, we do see some cracks in the armor of the whole “mutants are better,” though not nearly enough given what happened. Magneto returns and, very understandably, the government is pissed at Xavier for tricking the whole world into believing that Magneto was dead. Now, this seems fine, though the actual application of th Stuff I Read – Ultimate War So here is where most messages are dropped entirely and what follows is just an old fashioned hero vs hero brawl. Which is kind of nice. And here, finally, we do see some cracks in the armor of the whole “mutants are better,” though not nearly enough given what happened. Magneto returns and, very understandably, the government is pissed at Xavier for tricking the whole world into believing that Magneto was dead. Now, this seems fine, though the actual application of this is a bit clumsy, as we see people like Nick Fury and Captain America basically revert to the typical human depiction of hating mutants. In this they are the militant arm of a conservative, human government that is taking out its inability to understand what is happening on the X-Men and Xavier. But really, I find myself sympathizing with the Ultimates to some degree because Xavier did lie to the world about Magneto. More over, Xavier failed outright to change Magneto in the slightest. Having remembered who he was, he is even more angry, and rightfully so. This is the consequence of “post-human” solutions, because here we see that people would prefer you beat the crap out of them or even kill them rather than turn them into a mockery of what they were. It was more cruel to keep Magneto alive but try to change him than it was to kill him. I still fail to see how not killing him was better. It just seems more arrogant to assume that you can change someone when they don’t want to change, and that they will inevitably come around to your point of view because you are right. The thing is that Xavier is no more right than Magneto, and Magneto knows that. Even Xavier admits (though it is supposed to be a lie, I guess) that the difference in opinion was how to achieve to mutant utopia. It just seems to crazy to me to think that you are so right that everyone would agree with you if they were made to. That is just brainwashing. Xavier’s point isn’t based on logic, so how is his point inevitably right? But anyway, that is just the justification to put the Ultimates against the X-Men, with the result being that the X-Men pretty much win, though Professor X is captured. That seems fitting, at least, because all of this is Professor X’s fault and he should be held responsible for what Magnetor does because he prevented Magneto from being dealt with before. For all that the series tries to insist that there is a better way, it keeps showing that by not killing when it is appropriate more and more people die. With Proteus Professor X can say there should have been a better way, but that is just expected everyone else to follow the same thoughts as himself. And while this might make a bit of sense for a telepath, assuming that he is right and that he can make people think the way he does, the series does not show that that’s all it is, that Xavier is just forcing people to agree with him because he can. His powers enable him to make himself right. And at the times when his powers fail like with Proteus and with Magneto, people die and Xavier can do nothing but rely on violence and murder. That said, the action is everything one would hope in an Ultimates, X-Men brawl, though methinks Thor would have played a more important part in the scheme of things. That aside, the fight is epic and moves well, and though the message is still off it at least takes a back seat to fighting. The writing is, as usual, effective for what it sets out to do. I just don’t know if I’ll ever agree with what it sets out to do. Maybe, though part of me believes it won’t be until another writer gets onto the book. Until then, this arc earns a 6.75/10.

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